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Meghan Bell's avatar

Errr ... this "experiment" definitely doesn't "definitively" disprove the greater male variability hypothesis. Two very smart and accomplished Ashkenazi Jewish parents (with a known genetic IQ advantage) were able to groom their daughters into being chess masters? The GMV hypothesis doesn't claim this is impossible at all. Chess is largely about practice, memorization (Ashkenazis have incredible memories! I'm married to one, it's freaky how good it is). The three daughters became chess prodigies, sure, because their early childhood experiences would have wired their genetically-talented brains for that. But they didn't exactly do anything exciting or brilliant outside of the world of chess tournaments.

The GMV hypothesis doesn't say that women can't be geniuses -- it simply suggests that men tend to the extremes on a variety of traits (including intelligence and talent in various areas) on a normal distribution, whereas women tend to the average. This is in part because many relevant genes are on the X chromosome and men only have one. The theory would also predict that female geniuses would be more well-rounded than male geniuses, and, arguably, more valuable as a talent because of that. The GMV hypothesis also doesn't say that nurture or environmental factors don't matter.

Look, I scored extremely well on standardized tests of mathematic skills and spatial reasoning as a kid. Like 99.9th percentile, walked into the GRE and aced the math section after studying for the (whole) test for two hours kind of stuff. I quite easily got a top 15 score on leaderboard for the version of "Tetris Effect" I played, and the second highest score on the leaderboard for the 3D Tetris game "SuperHyperCube" -- while chain-smoking weed and listening to audiobooks. Talent exists. And here's the thing -- a) I never encountered a guy who doubted this talent of mine, because it was very, very easy to demonstrate. b) Men were, for the most part, encouraging, and disappointed in me when I didn't pursue it, which c) I didn't because I'm still a woman with female-typical interests and I went and pursued an education and career that interested me and then jumped at the chance to be a STAH mom when I met my husband and he knocked me up.

That's not a product of socialization. People saw the math talent and were like "You should be an engineer / investment banker / etc!" basically since I was 10. That sounded like hell to me. Studies have found that women are LESS likely to pursue STEM in more egalitarian, feminist countries -- and one of the reasons for that is the financial incentives for women to pursue STEM are lower in more equal, "socialist" countries (e.g. Scandinavian countries).

This is NOT to say that there aren't women who want to go into STEM, and obviously there are women geniuses. But it's ridiculous to suggest that the GMV hypothesis is incorrect for the reasons you've outlined here.

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Rudyard Reed's avatar

I think more than anything this is a total misinterpretation of GMV theory.

GMV theory just states a greater male variability. It doesn't say that girls cannot be smart and environment never matters.

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